Its a human one! I thought it was funny when he came out with this B.S. Very interesting. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Regarding #3 who was making a dare? He had several indentured servants. As I said an Irish female slave mating with an African slave could not transfer his last name because it was the name of a white owner, if an Irish male slave mated with an African slave she would not get his slave name, it would be the property of the white owner, riddle us this??? English treated Irish deplorably. Shame on you. Notable Hughes include American business magnate Howard Hughes, and poet and activist Langston Hughes. However, Ireland considers itself a dual speaking country, so visitors can expect to see both English and Irish on public service signs and announcements. It didnt GOD made all the races and it was good. Kelly 3. Certainly not the native potato-eating Catholic tenant farmers with no inheritance. Its like saying, Im personally offended by you not because of your genetics but because of your race!. The main difference is that 600,000 people died in a civil war to end Black slavery, not Irish indentured service. There you go again, oversimplifying a complicated issue. One of the most famous OConnells is singer-songwriter Billie Eilish who was born Billie Eilish Pirate Baird OConnell. Top 100 Irish surnames in Ireland: 1. "Kiss me, I'm Irish" is a popular phrase often associated with St. Patrick's Day celebrations. When Britainnia was taken over by the English (Germans) they immediately attacked the Irish and Scots and deported these black people to the West Indies, the women that remained were raped and whitenised by the red haired German invaders. The Plantation of Ulster in the seventeenth century saw the arrival of English and Scottish colonists in Ulster after the Flight of the Earls. Slaves were never considered to be humans, but rather, chattel, and were subject to the whoms of their masters. & why St.Patricks day is arguably one of the most celebrated holidays on the island. So ledgers are a great place to start, but the the ending point. She has travelled Europe, Africa, America, Asia and Australia and still claims that wanderlust tempts her daily. The Blake family name was found in the USA, the UK, Canada, and Scotland between 1840 and 1920. McDonald, McFadden, and not take the last names of the slave owners, of Smith, Washington, Jefferson, like the black slaves did. 7. Count DanielOMahonywas a general in the Irish Brigade and is one of the most famous people with the surname OMahoney. Ryan (30795) The most common Irish surnames in Ireland haven't changed much for a century. My only counter comment would be that slavery still exists in 21st century US through its prison industrial complex .. It became a first name in the nineteenth century, and was used in Ireland to anglicise Duald, Dubhdaleithe (black man of the two sides), and Dubhdara. Thus leaving no question that they were property and not human in the eyes of planters, The Irish already had last names in English, most Irish names are now written in English. It seems more likely that "Black Irish" is a descriptive term rather than an inherited characteristic that has been applied to various categories of Irish people over the centuries. It is striking, though, how this tale is very similar to the ancient Irish legend of the Milesians who settled in Ireland having traveled from Spain. From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Indeed this criminalisation of the poor continues into the 21st century. O'Connell 26. Do you still have your list of sources? Des Ekins The Stolen Village is about the village of Baltimore where this in particular happened. We were dwelling in Africa before being sold to the so-called white man (Edomites) by the hands of Africans (Hamites, specifically Tyre and Sidon) and Arabs (Palestine). Your email address will not be published. There was discrimination and stereotyping of Irish, and there were many Irish supporting the abolition movement, and later solidarity with the civil rights movement. Very few are disputing that the British were horrific to the Irish, and to some extent, the Scottish as well. Doran Irish. THe Irish slavery myth is a white supremacists push back against the very real phenomenon of southern slavery. This was about 14% of all the recorded Kelley's in USA. English journalist, author, and broadcaster Caitlin Moran is one of the most famous people called Moran. So, no, Irish did not get to keep their names, they got to keep their anglicized names, just like African slaves. There WERE absentee Irish SLAVEOWNERS. Why would you even mention those in the same breath? Who were the black Irish? Thanks for this fascinating post. Could they have not read the plight of slaves in the newspaper? http://www.academia.edu/9475964/The_Myth_of_Irish_Slaves_in_the_Colonie This story has been circulated amongst white supremacist sites and through social media, has found its way into mainstream conservative consciousness. This article is interesting as the subject of Irish slavery seems to be erased from history. Please describe discrimination that you personally face everyday? Think about their rage The fighting irish especially 100 years ago you wouldnt have not one Irishman admitting they were ever slaves ( they would talk about it amongst themselves, but never with outsiders whom werent real irish. Slavery is not the problem we have to endure. good reply. A great book to read is:To Hell or Barbados. British politician, writer, and broadcaster Bryan Magee is one of the most well-known Magees. as we see them as brothers no matter what skin tone you have. This was brought about by many different factors and not just slavery as most people seem to think. Britains famed Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing ones next door neighbor. Irish were indentured servants,which lasted 7 years. Dudley or Dudlly is my family name . After they were freed, when their slave trade ended, they were made overseers, given african slaves, made to believe they were part of the white establishment. ? Irish slaves suffered as much as black people did so they married each other?? The Irish in this group would be the ones who were protestant (sometimes referred to as Scot-Irish) and were pro-England. One of the most famous people with the name Campbell is model and actress Naomi Campbell. Ireland Before You Die is supported by its audience. Blacks who have Irish last names got them from their IRISH slave owners. The only qualifying factor is; if its dehumanizing and/oppressive then its wrong! But it wasnt until January 1, 1863 that Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation. Africans were *things*. McClure here and I am proud of my black and Irish ancestry. In a generation where so much information is consumed via hearsay or processed by means of social media, oftentimes, we can forget to dig into research like in the old days. This entire article reads like those oh-so-learned-sounding pieces that explain why women are simply not suited to traditionally male jobs, or why Black Americans by design and selection are simply not suitable for the sciences or for generic corporate America, and should stick to sports and physical labor. Should we question if being enslaved was not as horrific for those who were lighter skinned because the may not have has as harsh living conditions? I have a hard time following the discussion here, but I have made many replies. Not allowed to marry in Geirgia. Chances are, you can find her drinking coffee in some hidden gem cafe in Dublin, planning her next big trip. And they did this systemically and repeatedly. If Irish and blacks suffer slavery together, why is it only the blacks that lost their surnames and the Irish somehow retained their surnames and a knowledge of who they were [IRISH]?!? People dont make it to age 40 there. Bullshidt!!!! The same empire founded the North American Colonies. My great great great great grandfathers name is the same as mine. The only major distinction was that these slaves were not being exported outside of their continent likened unto cargo as they were in the African Slave trade. Only a few blacks were able to do this. Horrific story, and the things the Irish went through shouldnt be forgotten. The powers that be, have kept a lot of the truth where history covered up because, its all so ugly as well as in humane!!!!!!!! Its now being used to paint the picture of white persecution and victimization and to deny historic institution racism in the US. One last point, as a professor in irish studies.here are some accredited sources on irish slavery, you shouldnt get your sources from Wikipedia or any other non accredited website!!!!!! https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/us/irish-slaves-myth.amp.html. Musician and YouTube personality Charlie McDonnell is one of the most well-known McDonnells. Not from being bread with Irish. Smh. The subject of Irish slavery is not spoken about too much. O'Sullivan 4. And it is entirely possible that they formed families with the native peoples there, or when the slaves were finally freed by England in the English colonies of the West Indies, in the 1830s, with them and that could be how so many African Americans have Irish surnames. One of the most famous people with the surname Burke is American actor Robert Burke. Like many ancient lands, Ireland has seen the arrival of settlers, explorers, ancient tribes, and clans of all different nationalities over centuries. The O or preceding a second name means the grandson of or descendant of and is a common feat in Irish surnames. They were INDENTURED SERVANTS as were the very first Africans brought to the colonies that became the USA which meant 1) they entered a voluntary agreement to exchange their time for passage to the USA or for some type of apprenticeship or training, 2) after a period of time their SERVICE ended usually about 7 years. This article is not stretching the truth, it is flat-out lying to you. Yet, many often state that the first Celts arrived on the island of Ireland around 500 BC. Example, the habitual practice of African slaves being thrown off ships in transit and subsequently drowned/murdered , so slave owners could claim insurance. Children sent north. Erm, just a thought, but most Irish of the day would have had some knowledge of English, or been fluent. It is possible that the arrival of large numbers of Irish after the famine into America, Canada, Australia, and beyond resulted in their being labeled as "black" in that they escaped from this new kind of black death. The name Cullen is best known from the fictional family of the Twilight book and film series. http://www.irelandseye.com/irish/traditional/names/first/dudley.shtm, The name Dudley in Ireland is often of immigrant origin having been introduced into Ulster Province by settlers from England and Scotland, especially during the seventeenth century. African slaves were very expensive, slave trade controlled by Spain/Portugal/Netherlands, all enemies of Cromwell so he created another supply line. Lots of questions still to be answered. The English settlers (the masters in Ireland, supported by the English/British army) spoke English. One generation after another. As with the Vikings, these were viewed as a people of "dark intentions" who ultimately colonized much of the Eastern part of the country and several larger towns.
