While it is true that the affinity began as a result of a common interest in magic, Willow was always portrayed as the more dominant partner. > > > Now that the first season is out on DVD, can you tell us about storylines that never made the cut?> > >> > > Actually, there were a lot of things we were going to do and never did. This may include adverts from us and 3rd parties based on our understanding. I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. Willow was headed down that path anyway and Tara was a fellow traveller. JavaScript is disabled. Angel tried to catch her out by attacking her, thus forcing her to defend herself beyond the abilities of an average person in front of a court hearing with Lindsey as her defendant. Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver bullets We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what theywere made of. Walsh initially thinks that Buffy can be a useful ally to the Initiative, but soon takes a dislike to her unpredictability and unwelcome curiosity, especially with regards to the "314 Project". To me she was always a secondarycharacter, I liked the character and the actress, but the death just didn'ttouch me. In season five, Riley started to deteriorate as his devotion to the initiative started to get in the way of his relationship with the vampire slayer. When she seemingly killed a security guard which put her on the run, Lindsay tried to contact Angel but he was already there and hung Lindsey's neck by a string choking, wanting to know where she was but Lindsey explained that she would die if Angel didn't save her. > in article 130620022021411075%dsa@synapse.net, Don Sample at> dsa@synapse.net wrote on 6/13/02 7:24 PM:> > > In article <21ced21e.0206@posting.google.com>, Sam> > wrote:> >. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> first episode. Walsh retreats to the labs of Project 314, where she plots how to use Adam to defeat Buffy. So, the story I *thought* I knew was that Prof Walsh was the planned Big Bad for the season, but then Crouse departed the show early for (?) He might have requirements(other than material) that aren't easily met with store bought bullets. Sunnydale in further episodes before it was all revealed to us.-- Be seeing you,Growltiger, > > > > Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. "[3], Months later, Lindsey then worked with fellow lawyers Lilah Morgan and Lee Mercer, both having had previous plans ruined by Angel, to have him killed. If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a> taser by a then unknown assailant? Lindsey also worked with the ex-Watcher Rutherford Sirk to fake an addendum to the Shanshu Prophecy that the vampire with a soul must drink from the Cup of Perpetual Torment after apparently causing a disruption of reality that Eve claims is the result of there being two vampire champions with souls in an attempt to provoke a conflict between Angel and Spike that would result in Angel's death. Yes> I was that sad :-) and in those there were certain facts that don't appear> in Buffy>. Smart guy! (Actually, in _Wild at Heart_ Oz still has>>> scratches from his first encounter with Veruca several hours later, so>>> he can't heal too fast. Two men enter, one man leaves!" This allowed her to commit murder and get away due to her supposed disability. I remember one early episode where Walsh was shown watching Buffy and Riley in bed together, and thought at the time that, if she were somehow sexually obsessed with Riley, she might have used Initiative resources, including other chipped demons and vampires, to take Buffy out of the picture, probably beginning when she sent Buffy out alone with the defective weapon against the demon. The Watcher's Guide is indeed one of the published interviews I was citing about Crouse's departure and Walsh's fate. They were only able to leave by the sacrifice of Gunn, who remained behind to take Lindsey's place. Cordy (Charisma Carpenter) was introduced in the first episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.She was a teen drama archetype: the hot, rich, mean girl with a slew of sycophantic followers . [citationneeded], Angel is given the amulet which Spike eventually uses to destroy the Hellmouth in Sunnydale. Buffy Phenomenon A New Man (4.12) all too well - persaphones - The Sound of Music - Rodgers . During the ensuing battle, Lindsey attempted to burn a scroll that Angel needed to save Cordelia. And he is pretty darn cute to boot!! Their supervisor, Holland Manners, noticed Lindsey was going through a stage in his life to make decisions and allows Lindsey to take a few days to decide. Dressed in his casual attire, Lindsey left Los Angeles and went on a soul-searching trip, including, amongst other places, Nepal. It may not display this or other websites correctly. And there> > > would have been far more Angel-Buffy angst if he hadn't gotten his> > own show. Together, Lindsey and Eve manipulate events so that Spike, not Angel, proves (or at least appears to the Senior Partners) to be the ensouled vampire foretold in the Scrolls of Aberjian, the one who will have a crucial impact in the Apocalypse and fulfill the Shanshu Prophecy.Lindsey hopes that once the Senior Partners realize the folly of attempting to seduce Angel to their . The three hired then-renegade Slayer Faith to assassinate him, promising to free her from her police charges and a doubled amount of payment. Apparently Adam was originally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay. Everybody."[8]. Lindsey then discovered that Darla had slept with Angel. Professor Maggie Walsh is a fictional character in the television series Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He had also been betrayed by his boss, Professor Walsh (Lindsay Crouse) who had been in charge of the initiative but had been lying about an attempt to kill his girlfriend, Buffy. Even our quantum physics validate[s] ideas the Buddha taught 2,500 years ago. A flunky?! The two wrote much of The Sound of Music. Unable to get within a good distance due to a cross Lindsey held, Angel threw a scythe at Lindsey, chopping off his right hand. riiighhht?). Lahr also writes that Mamet got his first screenwriting assignment through Crouse. ", "North Shore Film Festival wraps up on May 8 and 9. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. What was her plan? Harris wasn't playing for money, power or fame. Maggie maintains a close relationship with Riley, who is her favorite soldier; she appears to think of him as a son. He was known for being a jock-like character, who was a part of a secret initiative to capture demons and study them. I read something about this in the official Buffy Magazine years ago, don't remember what it said other than Maggie was going to play a much bigger part in Season 4 originally. See Lindsay Crouse full list of movies and tv shows from their career. Mamet got the job. He noted that, while Angel was sidetracked at Wolfram & Hart, the apocalypse was already underway, and Angel and his team were becoming more corrupt by the day. Crouse viewed her character "no nonsense, and she seems to be a real teacher. Angel fought Darla for it at the event and Lindsey tried to protect her from Wolfram & Hart, which tried to kill her. His departure really changed the direction of the series and Idoubt it would have been Oz who'd have died. I'm not sure, but for the way her arc progresses and then suddenly stops, it seems to me like there must have been more to the backstage story. *shudder*. In 1982 she appeared as the decisive witness in The Verdict. I'm sure she admires Dr. Frankenstein - or Einstein. I still don'tthink he was; he was a fellow victim and should never have been playedas a big bad. It was> > Maggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy in> > front of everyone at the Initiative.> >. The Initiative was eventually destroyed and Riley was demoted, which did nothing for his reckless state of mind. [9], After Angel violently burnt Darla and Drusilla, Lindsay, still infatuated with Darla, let her recuperate at his apartment. Starting in the mailroom, he quickly worked his way up, becoming one of Wolfram & Hart's most valued lawyers. You do realize that Wolf Lake has nothing to do with Buffy, don't you? Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? Adam may be ridiculous, but is also a fun and fitting Big Bad. "You have to keep the poetry very, very active, which is pretty easy with Dickinson. (The> writers could change their minds, of course, and make them crucial to> the season seven finale, say, but that's the current canon.) I really do believe that." Why did Buffy go to LA in season 4? His character went on to feature in a comic book which focused on Riley and his new wife. [EXPLAINER]. However, Angel knew that Lindsey could never be trusted, and he had secretly instructed Lorne to assassinate Lindsey once the Sahrvin demons were eliminated. Lorne remarked he had heard him sing and shot Lindsey twice in the chest with a silenced pistol. riiighhht?) The loss of Marc Blucas was a blessing! "[3], Crouse gave some insight into her view on her character, "She's such an extremist. Fans are keen to know why actor Blucas left the cast of Buffy, and Express.co.uk has investigated. Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. Leaving Angel briefly to get his stake, Angel in that time recovered and turned the tables on Lindsey. And Angel did that. He had also been betrayed by his boss, Professor Walsh (Lindsay Crouse) who had been in charge of the initiative but had been lying about an attempt to kill his girlfriend, Buffy. Ms. Crouse is a senior . It wasMaggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy infront of everyone at the Initiative. ", Clements, Warren. [citationneeded], Though rivals at heart, Lindsey and Lilah were also forced to also work together. [2], It was then that Lindsey decided to leave Wolfram & Hart permanently, despite the fact he was promoted. For her role in the 1984 film Places in the Heart, she received an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. I don't know but I don't think Maggie Walsh would have been scary enough as the Big Bad on her own. Sarah Michelle Gellar. Buffy defeats the demons and appears on the monitors after Walsh has prematurely announced Buffy's death to Riley, who walks out. . However Buffy seemed to prefer living in danger, and she could not get used to the idea of settling down with Riley while attempting to save the world. I just can't see Oz taking Tara's place. She has a vision of what she wants to do. Yes, such specifics will certainly be written around the characters and their natures and would differ, but there's no real reason the broad flow of the story would have had to be different. One their schemes involved organizing a charity event with Anne Steele, operator of the East Hills Teen Center, to improved Wolfram & Hart's image and secretly steal the donations. The thing is would people have cared that Buffy and Riley were being drivenapart? READ MORE:Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? She is also a Grammy Award nominee. Better safe than splattered. Meanwhile, he infiltrated Wolfram & Hart. Buffy star missed. Used automotive wheel weights make great inexpensive bullets forplinking, and I can control how heavy a powder charge I want as well. ), >it would have had more impact. She also had a leading role in the 1987 film House of Games, which was directed by her then-husband David Mamet. She is of Russian Jewish and Hungarian Jewish descent. I heard Seth wanted out because he was getting more demand for movie workcause of his Austin Powers role instead of his Buffy role. If this or other postsmade through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email ab@newsone.net. From what I've heard it was between Crouse's agent and ME; specifically money $$$. [13] In 2021, she appeared in a limited engagement of Mornings at Seven at Broadway's Theatre at St. Career Crouse made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. The only Buffy depatures that really phased me were Robia LaMorte, SethGreen, and Kristine Sutherland. So leaving actually saved his life. A person I would really like to know!". This would at least have given Riley some character otherthan soldier boy. The person in charge was Maggie Walsh who was also Buffy's professor. And also, Seth (being oncontract) wouldn't have been missing for the amount of eps Tara was thisseason to make the whole just got back together thing and then killed in thesame episode. and Radcliffe College in 1970,[5] Crouse began her performing career as a modern and jazz dancer, but she soon switched to acting and made her Broadway debut in Much Ado About Nothing in 1972. [citation needed] Her maternal grandparents were author and educator John Erskine and his wife Pauline Ives. [citationneeded], Lindsey responded by changing into his casual clothes, getting into his truck and by brutally beating Angel with it and a sledgehammer, demanding to know what happened with Darla. "It was an amazing first job as they were such a nice group of people, they were extremely patient with me. "[21], "Lindsay Crouse keeps up a Family Stage Tradition. She tried to create a monster to help her plans and they just turned around and stabbed her through the stomach!!! Unless she really was evil, I don't think she intended to create a monster that would kill everyone? When Buffy appeared at the secret laboratory to confront Adam and save Riley, the undead Walsh tried to attack her with a bone saw. "Quitting is not the same as giving up": Lindsay Crouse and Kirby Ferguson make the case for leaving a job, relationship or hobby. The set up for the final battle between Buffy and Adam occured in episode 14. [2] [9], They learned that Angel had nothing and the footage consisted of nothing but Cordelia and Wesley messing around; it not only embarrassed them when they acted suspiciously to stop the footage being shown, but it allowed the demon to take the money and return it to Anne. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Crouse's essay has now racked up more than 3 million page views. In "The Freshman", antagonist Sunday was originally going to be a Slayer who had been turned into a vampire, explaining how she was able to nearly effortlessly defeat Buffy the first time they fought.Instead, she simply became an unusually savvy and powerful vampire. ", Lindsay Crouse brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport, Lindsay Crouse Summer Retreat in Massachusetts web site, Lindsay Crouse's Buddhist Teachings posted online at ACI-LA, Lindsay Crouse's additional Buddhist teachings posted online, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lindsay_Crouse&oldid=1133361838, Episode: "Rebecca McManus and Steve Arnold", Episode: "I've Got Batman in My Basement", Episodes: "Captain Kangaroo Court", "A Liver Runs Through It", Episodes: "Ted and Carey's Bogus Adventure", "Alice Doesn't Fit Here Anymore", Episodes: "Forgive, But Don't Forget", "Black Eye", "Sinners and Saints", "All Others Pay Cash", This page was last edited on 13 January 2023, at 11:35. "To join the Clueless Club, send a followup to this message quoting everythingup to and including this sig!" "Because everybody needs to go home and complain about the director. And why would he make his own bullets, then? The Big Bang Theory finale: Who did Sarah Michelle Gellar play? If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a taser by a then unknown assailant? At some point, he began a relationship with Eve, the Liaison to the Senior Partners. It makes no sense to me. His character was undergoing military training, but the creators of the series wanted to bring even more depth to Riley Finn. To me that would have been a cooler idea since you don't need to have a huge hidden base under campus and it does not make the Slayer's job completely redundant since you don't have an armed squad of demon-hunter doing her job, just your everyday mad scientist. > >> > Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. --from a usenet discussion. Lindsey insisted to Lorne that he had changed, offering to sing for him so Lorne might read his future. Sleeper--'It's a library; only the stupid and the evil are afraid of those.' Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. Any more word on this? Professor Maggie Walsh is introduced in Season Four, as Buffy's Psychology professor at the University of California, Sunnydale, but is later revealed as the leader of the government-controlled Initiative, a military project intent on capturing, studying, and modifying the behavior of various demons. "[1], In a gender studies text, Jowett includes a section on the character, and argues the character is "masculinized by her roles as professor, scientist and leader. Wesley, unhappy with being forced to serve the Partners, shot those possibilities down, saying the presence of either alongside Angel would not help the Senior Partners get what they wanted, as the vampire would at worst ignore them and kill them at best. But Crouse made the character far too cold for fans to get into. Per the outlet, "Angel . "Carmikl" wrote in message. His relationship with Buffy also hit the rocks after he realised she could not love him in the way he wanted, as she was scared of emotional vulnerability. The Initiative is her baby. He sent Spike to kill her, claiming she was still possessed by Jasmine; he later admited he did not expect the plan to succeed, but it "was worth a shot." Crouse has also guest-starred on Alias, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Columbo, Criminal Minds, Law & Order, ER, Millennium, and NYPD Blue. bah. [4] Their 1946 play State of the Union won that year's Pulitzer Prize for Drama. ActuallyI think it would have upset me more to see Oz get shot infront of Willow. Clements.[14]. It was> Maggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy in> front of everyone at the Initiative. the > exact opposite of this paragraph.> > Does anybody have definitive info?> > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a > Usenet posting). If Seth Green handn't left, it would have been him lying dead on the bedroom floor in "Seeing Red". [11], Crouse appeared in Lee Blessing's Going to St. Ives with the Gloucester Stage Company during the summer of 2008[12] and provided the narration for Virginia Lee Burton: A Sense of Place, a documentary film about Virginia Lee Burton. During the day vampires had to sleep in a coffin with its native soil init and would return to a death like state.3. [10], Lindsey quickly replaced his hand with a new prosthetic and continued with his life, requiring pre-made ties for work and unable to play his guitar. Perceiving that Buffy poses a risk to the project, Walsh tries to kill Buffy by sending her on a mission on which she is ambushed by two demons released from the Initiative's holding cells. I've seen other published interviews that say Lindsay Crouse was disappointed to learn her character was destind to die halfway through the season-- i.e. Since werewolves are fictional, there's no universal "rule" about how they must be portrayed. Sumati Marut, Cindy Lee, Rick Blue, Lindsay Crouse", "Actress brings Buddhist retreat to Windhover. >. In many stories, it takes silver to kill a werewolf when it's in wolf form but the other 26 or so days of the month when they are human, they can be killed just like anyone else can. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. Anthony Stewart Head, who played Buffy's watcher Rupert Giles, was only represented by an oil painting. -- Tim McDaniel is tm@jump.net; if that fail, tm@us.ibm.com is my work account. After reading an intriguiging book about vampire legends, it seems to me (the book didn't draw this conclusion, it's my own stab in the hear-- er, dark) that pretty much the entire modern picture of the vampire as played in Hollywood and Gothic fiction comes from Bram Stoker's "Dracula", and Stoker actually made up most of it on his own. ", Lindsey was originally going to appear in the "First Night" storyline of. At Harvard, 46.3% of recruited athletes in the class of 2022 come from families with household incomes of $250,000+, compared with 1/3 of the class as a whole. In fact, while, under the assumption that she'd left the show early, I used to think that that reanimated corpse prof Walsh (in Primeval) was just an extra in prosthetics, it turns out that it was actually herself (Crouse) coming back to the show as planned all along. [citationneeded], Together, Lindsey and Eve manipulate events so that Spike, not Angel, proves (or at least appears to the Senior Partners) to be the ensouled vampire foretold in the Scrolls of Aberjian, the one who will have a crucial impact in the Apocalypse and fulfill the Shanshu Prophecy. Sometimes it's hard to keep up with the latest celebrity news, but don't worry we have you covered. Lindsay Crouse had more fun playing a zombie than playing Prof. Walsh. This is the first time I've ever heard this. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> > Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. ", Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, Eleanor and Franklin: The White House Years, Beyond the Prairie: The True Story of Laura Ingalls Wilder, Beyond the Prairie, Part 2: The True Story of Laura Ingalls Wilder, "Anna E. Crouse, 97, Dies; Championed Discount Tickets for Broadway", "The Very (Very) Slow Rise of Lesbianism on TV - The New York Times", "Gloucester Stage Company plans five plays, Sunday readings for 29th season. Not bad, but the mix would have beenbetter. A stunned Lindsey slumps against by a wall, outraged that he was killed by one of Angel's "flunkies" instead of the vampire himself. Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. You don't think she's just pining for the fjords? was not that big if a surprise. Vampires could shapeshift into bats, wolfs and even smoke4. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Complete Series (1997-2003) was TV's most unlikely pop-culture phenomenon since The X-Files. Especially since he's been in the show from almostthe start. I like her caustic nature, because she's not a mean person. ", Christian Kane has said that he considered Lindsey to be driven in his hate for Angel during season 5 over losing Darla to him: "Even though I'm in love with Eve, Darla was a true love. After a relationship with Robert Duvall,[15] Crouse married playwright David Mamet in 1977. It's very dramatic poetry in that way. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a, > > motherly type to Riley. It seems that a lot of the problems that Buffy has had in previous seasons were the results of actors bailing out in mid-production. Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. Definatelynot as big of a surprise as how Warren died. After graduating from the Chapin School in 1966[6] I was seven when they took the house, just came right in and took it.Lindsey McDonald, Born into a poor and dysfunctional family in the south-central United States, Lindsey worked hard to overcome his upbringing. There were other indications that an> unknown force was at work in and around U.C. Unknown to many in the Initiative, Walsh is also involved in Project 314, a secret program within the Initiative that is creating a hybrid demon-humanoid-mechanoid (demonoid) known as Adam. > > > > This is the first time I've ever heard this. Blucas, now 48, joined the cast of Buffy in 1999 and this was his first major TV role, with the show acting as a springboard to a long-running TV and film career. Beating him down with his bare hands while apologizing for the fact Darla didn't love him and that he made the right choices, Angel used the sledgehammer to smash Lindsey's prosthetic hand, noting that Lindsey should be grateful he recently had an epiphany, as Angel could have easily destroyed Lindsey's remaining real hand instead. >> If Seth Green handn't left, it would have been him lying dead on the, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, jlp@aol.comnospam wrote in, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, "Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790, > > in season four, Maggie (Lindsay Crouse was going to be much more of a, >> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what, Did anyone else notice that Cain was the same guy as Sahrjon on Angel. [18] Their marriage produced two daughters, Willa and Zosia Mamet. She made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. )>> >> Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver bullets> > We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what they> were made of. Maybe it useda wierd calibre bullet. She's like a President. The Initiative project is shut down permanently. Kane has described the character as being driven by cynicism and ambition: "I still think this cat looks at the glass as being half empty. On the other hand, with only Lindsey and Lilah left of Wolfram & Hart's Special Projects Team, their rivalry reached an all-time high as the two start a power struggle for the vice-presidency of the team as at the time neither of them was deemed fit to take the title. I disagree. I mean, it's the year 2000 people, we almost thought the world was going to end because computers couldn't cope with the millennium bug and the Big Bad is a mutant hybrid demon with a built-in dial-up modem. -- Jukka.@hut.fi (Jukka Korpela), The answer to all questions starting with those four words is "Yes.". [2], The Senior Partners gave that Eurotrash vampire everything I've worked for. Though Angel saw Lindsey off, he managed to get one last crack at him by taping a sign reading "Cops Suck" on the back of his truck. In fact, while, under the assumption that she'd left the show early, I used to think that that reanimated corpse prof Walsh (in Primeval) was just an extra in prosthetics, it turns out that it was actually herself (Crouse) coming back to the show as planned all along. Buffy: Do Spike and Buffy really love each other? Riley was different from Buffy's other love interests, is he was the only one who could offer her a slice of normality. Walsh appears in the penultimate episode of Season Four, "Primeval," as a zombie, working under Adam along with others Adam has killed. [2][3] Lindsay Ann Crouse's full name is an intentional tribute to the Broadway writing partnership of Lindsay and Crouse, which consisted of her father and his writing partner, Howard Lindsay.

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